Gweryd Lakes 14/06/06

[ryan06]

Arrived around 9ish, when there wasnt hardly anybody fishing here, i went with my dad and my uncle, i started of to fish the pole down the side as they were both fishing a float rod about 12m out. I started off with a fish a chuck catching rudd, roach, skimmers and tench. as my dad an uncle were baggin up with the bigger stamp of these fish, . so i decided to set up a float rod to about 12m out and this started to bring me better results, my fish were on pineapple pellets an corn. Plus me uncle also had a nice carp bout 7-8lbs.

my bag not that big as i like to wonder round for a bit lol but there bags were great. You can find it here www.gwerydlakes.co.uk/
UNCLE



DAD

[Bri]

Nice one Adam. Nice carp your uncle has there mate.

[jackpike]

Well done mate It looks like a nice place I have seen it before on the web I would mind having a couple nights there myself but barblees hook rule I think is nonsense because I always feel they do more damange than a barbed hook over a certain size .

[Jamie]

Well done but ur uncle shudnt be standing up holding that carp Tut tut...

[KeviN]

Good nets and well done mates!

[Bri]

jackpike said:

barblees hook rule I think is nonsense because I always feel they do more damage than a barbed hook over a certain size .

How? Surely a straight point does less damage than a jagged one regardless of the size.

[alan76]

Looks like a cracking venue,did you stay there or just go for the day,how long did it take and which lake did you fish?

[KeviN]

admin said:

jackpike said:

barblees hook rule I think is nonsense because I always feel they do more damage than a barbed hook over a certain size .

How? Surely a straight point does less damage than a jagged one regardless of the size.

there's a HUGE debat in maggotdrowning.

Just think in that way, if I am putting a hook on you, one barbed and one barbless, which one you choose?
the one you choose do less damage.

[ryan06]

fished the speciman lake, only took bout 45mins to get there brilliant fishing thou

[jackpike]

kevin said:

admin said:

How? Surely a straight point does less damage than a jagged one regardless of the size.

there's a HUGE debat in maggotdrowning.

Just think in that way, if I am putting a hook on you, one barbed and one barbless, which one you choose?
the one you choose do less damage.

With a barbed hook the hook doesnt pivot the same as barbless as they can turn 360 degrees causing the entry hole to become larger and rip the fishes mouth . The barbed hook stays in the same postition and doesnt rotate the same as a barbless in a strong fighting fish.

[Bri]

jackpike said:

With a barbed hook the hook doesnt pivot the same as barbless as they can turn 360 degrees causing the entry hole to become larger and rip the fishes mouth . The barbed hook stays in the same postition and doesnt rotate the same as a barbless in a strong fighting fish.

Surley you are not saying a small barb can prevent the hook from turning?

How about the size of the hole when you have to rip the barbed one out? A barbless, as we all know to our lost fish comes out easily without the need to lacerate the mouth.

I am not stubborn in my opinion on this and im prepared to be educated on the subject. Maybe I am wrong in my assumption, but I really cannot see how a straight point can do less damage than a jagged one.

A simple test would be to hook your thumb with both kinds of hook and see what does the most damage.

As me and Jackpike will be biased on the subject I think one of our members should volunteer for this experiment

[ryan06]

i think we should get matt hayes or bob nudd to test it for us.

[Bri]

John Wilson. Get rid of that stupid laugh of his.

[jackpike]

Try it on a pork joint, the main damange is cause when actually play a strong fish like carp, tench and barbel a barbless hook pivots causing a cheesewire effect a barbed hook doesnt . On a fishery where its barbless hooks only there are fish with ripped mouths than one where barbed hooks are allowed, we are talking about hooks over size 16.

[KeviN]

jackpike said:

kevin said:

there's a HUGE debat in maggotdrowning.

Just think in that way, if I am putting a hook on you, one barbed and one barbless, which one you choose?
the one you choose do less damage.

With a barbed hook the hook doesnt pivot the same as barbless as they can turn 360 degrees causing the entry hole to become larger and rip the fishes mouth . The barbed hook stays in the same postition and doesnt rotate the same as a barbless in a strong fighting fish.

i agree barbless hook can cause less damage. Like one of my favourite hook the Tubertini 808, it's a fine wire strong hook, it never made big hole on fish mouth mate. While B911 made bigger holes as it's got thicker wire.

For barbed hook, when you unhook the fish it must cause a bigger hole. Myself only accept micro barb like B511, but not big barb hook.

[Bri]

jackpike said:

Try it on a pork joint, the main damange is cause when actually play a strong fish like carp, tench and barbel a barbless hook pivots causing a cheesewire effect a barbed hook doesnt . On a fishery where its barbless hooks only there are fish with ripped mouths than one where barbed hooks are allowed, we are talking about hooks over size 16.

I think we will ave to agree to disagree on this one Jackpike

[twhite1967]

Ryan you must live close to me as im in walton - i went to gweryd the week before you , also the specimen lake , i started off on the near side bank close to the top pegs as far as you can go , roach,rudd,tench and skimmers , it was too hot with the sun in my face so we changed to the opposite side of the lake by the trees and stick-ups , same again over there , lots of tench , skimmers and the odd nice bream ( no big carp feeding on the alarm rod to boilies ) ....

[ryan06]

no i didnt ave one bite on the alarm either although there was alot of fish spawning around the sides when we were there.